“Wait, Is This a night out together?” Podcast Episode 206: Celebrity Crushes | Autostraddle

It absolutely was my sibling’s turn to choose the flick at Blockbuster and she’d opted for

A Walk to consider

. “Sorry. This is exactly a lady motion picture,” my personal mommy warned. As soon as we had gotten residence and saw it children, I didn’t show my rips. Or my need. I didn’t confess that I enjoyed the film and, moreover, cherished the lead. The season had been 2002 and between Mandy Moore contained in this motion picture and Avril Lavigne issuing her introduction album, I would discovered the two types of celebrity crushes that would haunt with the rest of my personal childhood.

Star crushes mean even more to queer folks than they are doing to straight men and women. They can be all of our first expressions of queer desire or the first expressions of sex envy. They may be a safe location to try urges that aren’t prepared for any real life.

This is why recently we are speaking with publisher and podcaster Jordan Crucchiola exactly about celeb crushes. We speak about just how star thirsting seems comprehensive to Jordan as a panromantic gray asexual person. We discuss how I believe a lot of my celeb crushes tend to be type attainable. And, of course, we speak about the well-known older females on Christina’s h2o bottle.

But very first! Christina quizzes me on a topic i understand little about — lesbian love books

SHOW RECORDS

+ The real romance books referenced inside our video game happened to be:

The X Ingredient

,

Splitting Personality

,

Resort Queens

,

Payback’s a Witch

, and

The Brutal Reality

.

+ My research for just two fans sharing a wall:

+ Christina’s guide for 2 lovers revealing a wall:

+ Here are all of Jordan Crucchiola’s podcasts:

Straightforward Podcast

The Whole Film Podcast

Aughtsterion

Disaster Ladies

Feeling Spotted

+ My famous

Euphoria

recaps
.

+ If just like me, you really have little idea just who Lindsay Shookus is actually,
here’s a timeline
of her relationship with Mr. Jennifer Lopez.

+ This is extremely fearless of myself, because I don’t bear in mind every little thing we blogged to my Tumblr, but here is a hyperlink to
my personal Nicole Kidman task
.

+

The

Angelina Jolie Rolling Rock cover
.

+ an indication to watch

P-Valley

also to review
Natalie’s coverage
.

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EPISODE

Jordan:

Actually every time Jennifer Connelly’s face popped upon display, each and every time i simply went, “Oh, God.”

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Jordan:

Like, audibly. I, like, gasped and “Oh, God,” like every drilling time.

[theme track performs]

Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew.

Christina:

And I’m Christina.

Drew:

And introducing Hold Off, Is It A Romantic Date?.

Christina:

You are sure that, Wait, Is it A Date? is actually an Autostraddle podcast wherein we constantly forget just who claims just what, regardless of what very long we have now taped. Uh, In my opinion which is actually really gorgeous. And my personal earphones only fell quickly my mind. So.

Drew:

So a powerful s—, powerful beginning.

Christina:

A powerful start. But largely, it’s a podcast about online dating and, like, determining what dating is and when we realize tips take action, much like we ascertain easily understand how to hold my very own headsets back at my damn mind.

Drew:

That’s fantastic. Um, I am Drew Gregory. I am (laughs) I am, uh… Or do you ever… But did you want me to dwell thereon longer? I’m acquiring looks.

Christina:

No, I Am just dwelling…

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

…on my self.

Drew:

Great.

Christina:

Exciting any time you talk, i believe. (laughs)

Drew:

Right. Um, uh, I am Drew Gregory. I am a filmmaker and an author for Autostraddle. I am a queer trans lady besides. Those are identification tags that i’ve. Christina?

Christina:

Yes, absolutely. I’m Christina Tucker. Im also a writer at Autostraddle and a podcaster. And honestly, this month I really and truly just been like a girl about area. I’ve really just been like—

Drew:

Mm.

Christina:

—woman most importantly, mostly in a variety of—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—beaches, uh, inside the Jersey Shore.

Drew:

You probably have actually.

Christina:

But nonetheless feeling really as a whole and whimsical in a way that now we demonstrably feel fatigued by.

Drew:

Yes.

Christina:

I’m Ebony and gay, which stones for me.

Drew:

I love that. (laughs)

Christina:

Cool. I don’t know the reason why i am so odd these days. We, like, have no idea who i will be. What are you doing?

Drew:

It’s fine. We’re going to keep goin’.

Christina:

Everything I have, though, Drew, is actually a-game.

Drew:

Mm-hmm. Thank Jesus.

Christina:

Which video game I’m screening your knowledge of anything I Am Aware you don’t have countless understanding of, that is—

Drew:

Oh Jesus.

Christina:

–fun. Um, it really is a… it really is known as… Really don’t even have a reputation because of it. We perhaps should’ve thought of a name. But basically, I’ll provide three lesbian love brands, and you’re going—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—to need to let me know do you know the genuine people of this three.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Two i’ve produced, one is real. And you’re going to have to choose the genuine one and tell me how you feel it is more about.

Drew:

Great. Okay.

Christina:

Are you ready?

Drew:

Im. What a fantastic online game.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Here we get. One three.

The X Element

,

The It Factor

, and

The Truth of Us

.

Drew:

Huh. its amusing, ‘cause you would think

The X Element

would actually end up being

The X Factor

in conjunction with

The It Element

, but—

Christina:

Positive.

Drew:

We wanna state… I just… Oh, i am hoping I am not accidentally insulting you, but personally i think like

The X Element

may be the clunkiest, and that means you would not attended with that. It needs to be actual.

Christina:

You are appropriate. (laughs)

Drew:

Yes.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow, I’m thus glad.

Christina:

Precisely what do you believe

The X Ingredient

is approximately?

Drew:

Um, i believe really about two lesbians who happen to be exes and find yourself on a single real life cooking show that’s kind of like

Chopped

, but, like, approximately

Chopped

and

Great British Baking Program

. Like, it goes on for a while however it features kind of the elements of

Chopped

. Um, and they are exes and it also… It is type of love a… I’m not sure in the event it would rely as an enemies to lovers simply because they were enthusiasts at some point, but it’s like an exes to straight back together.

Christina:

Everyone loves that. In addition love that by requesting to tell me personally what you think these publications go for about, I simply made you develop romance plots.

Drew:

I really like it.

Christina:

Which is actually fun. Uh, unfortunately

The X Ingredient

is, uh, about an associate who sleeps along with her manager. When I began reading it a week ago on beach, we said, “this is exactly absolutely a

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic who has converted into a proper guide.” Once I let you know we take a look at

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic, I pretty sure have actually. So’s a journey.

Drew:

Hold off, but why is it called

The X Element

?

Christina:

Well, for the original fanfic, the X ingredient had been… There seemed to be some sort of reason why Miranda had all the woman personnel, uh, eat her over to orgasm. Um.

Drew:

Wow.

Christina:

Can’t really bear in mind precisely what the, the story, the backstory ,was on that, um, in this new one, inside real circulated adaptation i will say, uh, the X component i assume is actually, I don’t know, just, like, that the woman associate’s hot and she is love, “Oh, Im homosexual now and I wanna make love with her.” Like, I’m not sure. The X ingredient will be hot.

Drew:

Good enough for me personally. Okay.

Christina:

There you choose to go.

Drew:

Round two.

Christina:

Round two.

Broken Hearts Club

…

Drew:

Uh-huh.

Christina:

…

Busting Personality

,

Choosing Broke

.

Drew:

Ooh, all those appear to be they are often actual. I absolutely want it to be

Busting Personality

, but i do believe

Reduced Hearts Club

is actual.

Christina:

Regrettably,

Broken Hearts Club

is not actual. And happy for you,

Splitting Character

is actually genuine.

Drew:

Oh my God, i ought to’ve only eliminated using my instinct.

Christina:

Go with your own abdomen, babe.

Drew:


Breaking Character

. Okay, it is about sort of like female Daniel Day-Lewis, like a female star exactly who requires the woman technique performing extremely seriously, and she develops an union along with her co-star. But the woman co-star, it really is uncertain for both her co-star and also for the actor if the co-star is within really love together or in really love with her figure. And hijinks ensue.

Christina:

Actually, that’s not remote from actual storyline of

Breaking Character

, that is indeed about two performers, a person who is actually, uh, been known as a bitch it is not necessarily, but is just getting, uh, badmouthed by her showrunner because she actually is on like a

Gray’s Structure

type health tv series—

Drew:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Christina:

—that has actually actually eliminated off the rails. Her figure’s the bitch.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

And, uh, her brand new co-star summertime — you heard that right, her name’s Summer — is really charming and delightful. And because extremely bonkers plot explanations, they have to have a fake union. However They’re both homosexual so…

Drew:

So absolutely nothing occurs. They don’t really develop any emotions.

Christina:

Yeah, so they don’t… Yeah, nothing.

Drew:

They never ever connect. No.

Christina:

Nothing happens. They never ever explore it and do not have intercourse.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

Yep, that is exactly what takes place.

Drew:

Often that is how it goes.

Christina:

Okay, the next three.

Hotel Queens

,

News Moguls

, or

Restaurant Monarchs

.

Drew:

Okay, I Am gonna follow my instinct and opt for the one that I Would Like To be real—

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

—and wish that which is genuine.

Hotel Queens

.

Christina:


Resort Queens

is actually genuine.

Drew:

Wow, I Am killing it. (laughs)

Christina:

You’re eliminating this. For a person would you not read loads of lesbian love, uh, its within blood, girl.

Drew:

Okay, i will today state the plot that i really hope it’s, though i am sure centered on my understanding of publishing industry this isn’t happening. But i’d like that it is about two participants on a show similar to, like,

Drag Race

‘cause you’re not truly supposed to, like, maintain each other’s spaces but, you realize, they remain in a lodge for the whole recording associated with the tv series. So they really develop, like, a sort of remarkable event that for some time cannot be consummated, but their areas are close to both so they, like, knock-on the wall surface around them following when they’re filming, absolutely similar to all of the tension and it’s… And yeah, that’s, that is what Needs

Resort Queens

to be pertaining to.

Christina:

That appears quite hot. Um, which is not just what

Hotel Queens

concerns. It’s just about a lady just who works motels and, uh, another woman just who runs a competing hotel.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

Exactly Who works for a contending lodge sequence in addition they, uh—

Drew:

Sure, sure, yes.

Christina:

—quite literally are resort queens.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

But I adore that electricity. I love the knocking on the… really, uh,

bump 3 x on the threshold if you want myself

energy, that I like.

Drew:

I found myself referencing

Sparkling Celebrity

, and I also like our, i really like all of our different social factors, you are aware.

Christina:

I favor all of our minds.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

In my opinion minds are very breathtaking.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

Fine,

Paid-in Paradise

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


The Repayment Plan

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Oh,

Payback’s a Witch

sounds enjoyable. I am going with

Payback’s a Witch

.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

. And it is fun ‘cause really a real book.

Drew:

Cool.

Christina:

Let me know what you think

Payback’s a Witch

is mostly about.

Drew:

Okay, I Managed To Get it.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

So a young gay witch is actually struggling to make lease during the early months of pandemic.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Additionally the landlord is similar to, “No, you need to nonetheless offer cash.” And she is want, “But seem, like, all these… you realize, like, you can’t evict me,” and all sorts of these different things and like, “You should give me personally some slack,” and “It really is a pandemic.” Therefore the property manager’s like, “No, I’m a landlord. I detest you.”

Therefore after that she actually is like… She goes, “No, i am a witch,” therefore after that she starts tormenting the landlord. Love tale just isn’t together with the landlord, perhaps not an enemies-to-lovers scenario because—

Christina:

‘Cause landlords are terrible. Yes. (laughs)

Drew:

But actually she realizes that the woman next-door neighbor normally a witch plus a lesbian, so that they torment the property owner collectively and fall in love as you go along. It sort of has like a Roald Dahl fuel, like

The Twits

. Or

Fantastic Mr. Fox

. Like, there’s not really, like… there is not lots of dispute as soon as the initial dispute happens. Like, each of them only are like, “We’re both witches. We’re going to torment this person which is entitled to be tormented.” Following they’ve sex.

Christina:

That’s in fact really attractive. Uh,

Payback’s a Witch

is approximately, rather, a woman who is, you thought it, a witch who comes back to her hometown where this is the only place that she will be able to do magic—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—because absolutely like a secret lake. This lady has been without capabilities.

Drew:

Fun. Ooh.

Christina:

Um, and she meets a, a girl she had a crush on in senior high school. Uh, absolutely like a whole very long, like, secret world-building thing utilizing the city together with households that are running the town. They get together. It’s very nice. Fun book,

Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Frankly, from the ones up to now, this is the one i’d many wanna study.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

is very fun. Uh, there is certainly a sequel compared to that book, however it is regrettably about direct people. Therefore.

Drew:

Crazy.

Christina:

You victory some, you shed some. All right, here is our last one.

Honesty and 2nd Possibilities

,

Whenever Reality Touches Fiction

—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—or

The Brutal Reality

.

Drew:

Ooh. I’m gonna opt for

When Reality Matches Fiction

.

Christina:

Mm, that is unfortunately from my mind alone. Uh,

The Brutal Reality

, nonetheless…

Drew:

Fortunately that

The Brutal Truth

and

Whenever Truth Meets Fiction

, I think they are both comparable thing and that’s—

Christina:

Yeah, they would end up being.

Drew:

—novel-length fanfiction of

The Morning Show

as well as Bradley Jackson and her truth-telling. But we imagine if it was printed, for copyright explanations they did need certainly to alter some details. So the woman name’s maybe not Bradley Jackson anymore, but it is likewise plotted.

Christina:

Which Will Be a shame because Bradley Jackson is actually top on the list of best fictional character names ever place to paper, um, despite how—

Drew:

Definitely.

Christina:

—ridiculous everything regarding it is actually. But congratulations on that Emmy nom, Reese.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

(laughs)

The Brutal Reality

concerns a news mogul who gets control of a striving paper and comes in deep love with the criminal activity journalist, who writes—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—at the evening. Uh, they’ve got a tremendously sweet coming collectively. The mass media mogul is clearly extremely mean and like 20 years avove the age of she is. It is wonderful things.

Drew:

Sure.

Christina:

And that I will, because we worry plenty in regards to our listeners, clearly feature backlinks to all or any among these genuine guides inside the tv series records.

Drew:

Incredible.

Christina:

And the rest of them, they return back into my brain in which they belong. In addition, coming up with games of guides… Like i could produce plots for a romance books all day every day. Titles is, like, in fact shockingly challenging.

Drew:

Yeah, you probably did great.

Christina:

Thanks a lot. I just needed that match.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Our very own extremely unique visitor is among my personal favorite men and women to thirst about celebs with. So unique guest, why not present yourself therefore we will get into celebrity crush talk?

Jordan:

Uh, hello. Hi, Christina. It is a— And Drew. Hello. I, I am Jordan Crucchiola. And in case you pay attention to any kind of my personal podcasts, you have begun with the Simple Podcast that we did with Christina. So when I stated once I logged on to this cam, the last time we had been on a pod collectively was actually whenever we were choosing Blake Lively.

Christina:

And, when I remember, texting feverishly, uh, off-mic—

Jordan:

Yeah.

Christina:

—about wow, Blake Livelyis only in only a little Zoom spot.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

There she is. She is got so much locks. What exactly is happening? She actually is talkin’ to united states for such a long time.

Jordan:

Go with Jesus, Blake. Thank you so much.

Christina:

It actually was untamed times. Wild occasions.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

Do you wish to say a little more about who you really are?

Jordan:

Sure, sure. Um, I, I would like to say that I am someone who really likes Drew Gregory’s everything I consider becoming definitive

Euphoria

recaps.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow. many thanks.

Jordan:

There was clearly particular one where, um… Considering that the tv show can make me personally therefore incredibly… Hunter Schafer is, uh, an angel from God.

Christina:

Yeah.

Jordan:

As well as the tv show tends to make me excessively uneasy in how unmarried brain trust originator, executor, producer, movie director, writer, gazes upon Hunter.

Christina:

Mm-hmm.

Drew:

Yeah.

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